Caln Township
253 Municipal Drive
Thorndale, PA 19372
February 14, 2019 Minutes
7:35 PM
Commissioner Breton called the February 14, 2019 meeting to order, and Salute to the Flag.
Attendance – Jennifer Breton-President, George Chambers-Vice President, Joshua Young-Commissioner, John Contento-Commissioner, Lorraine Tindaro-Commissioner, Kristin Camp-Solicitor, Kristen Denne-Township Manager/Secretary, and Denise Miller Assistant Township Secretary.
Commissioner Breton noted that the Board conducts their meeting according to Roberts Rules of Order which means that you need to be recognized in order to speak, giving your name and address for the record. Under “Citizens to be Heard” you may acknowledge yourself on items referring to the agenda. items. Items not on the agenda are reserved for “Public Comment”. She requested cell phones be silenced and citizens speak one at a time.
Citizens to be Heard
Mark DeYoung of 20 Beaver Run Road commented on the Planning Commission recommendation for 150 Parkside’s curbing or sidewalk waiver.
Tony DiSario of 251 Loomis Avenue commented on pages missing from the financial report.
Township Solicitor – Ms. Camp
Discuss Ordinance Amending the Caln Township Zoning Ordinance Relating to Sign Regulations – Ms. Camp noted that she would like to review Montgomery County’s sign ordinance with Ms. Denne and Mr. Stackhouse and make some edits, and then present a new draft to the Board for further discussion.
150 Parkside for Board Discussion/Action – Ms. Camp noted a proposed motion to grant Preliminary/Final Approval for 150 Parkside Drive which consists of two parcels, 39-2-50.1 and 39-2-2, approximately 18 acres located in the Industrial Zoning District, Wetland Overlay, and Hydric Soil Overlay District. The Applicant proposed to develop the property with forty seven mobile homes in accordance with the Preliminary Land Development Plans titled 150 Parkside, prepared by D.L. Howell and Associates. The Applicant appeared before the Zoning Hearing Board and received Variances and a Special Exception, which have been extended and are currently valid. On January 22, 2019 the Township Planning Commission recommended that the Board grant Preliminary/Final Approval subject to various waivers. Review letters were received from the Township Sewer Consultant Gilmore and Associates, Township Traffic Consultant Al Frederico, and Brian Kulakowsky from ARRO Engineering.
Jeff Trego commented on the Planning Commission’s recommendation regarding the curbing and sidewalk waivers.
After review of the proposed waivers and Board revisions, Board consensus was for Ms. Camp to make the discussed revisions and forward the final proposed motion to the Board, for review.
Township Manager – Ms. Denne
Ms. Denne noted that she met with the Brandywine Conservancy and the Chester County Planning Commission regarding the Chester Valley Trail West. The Brandywine Conservancy has received a William Penn Grant to conduct a feasibility study that would cover the cost of the Caln portion of the study, in its entirety. She also noted that in order to meet the requirements of the grant they have to complete the feasibility study within the next year. She noted that they need a member of the Planning Commission, Parks and Recreation, and an Elected Official to sit on the Planning Committee which will hold four meetings with the first meeting in March. Abbey Swan will act as the in-house liaison. The Board noted that they will get back to Ms. Denne on a Board Member for the Committee.
Ms. Denne requested Board approval to proceed with a proposed Eagle Scout project for an ADA accessible Gaga Pit, to be located by the basketball court. She also noted that the Scouts will be responsible for the maintenance of the Gaga Pit. Commissioner Chambers asked Ms. Denne if she mentioned the medallions for the stormwater drains project. Ms. Denne noted that she did and the Scouts Leader said that they have another Scout who would need a project to do.
Engineer – Mr. Kulakowsky
Planning Commission Update – Mr. Kulakowsky noted gave a brief presentation.
1) ARRO is currently working on the 2019 road program
Ordinances and Resolutions for Consideration
Resolution 2019-07 Disposal of Township Property – Commissioner Breton entertained a motion to adopt Resolution 2019-07 for the Disposal of Township Property. Moved by Commissioner Young and seconded by Commissioner Tindaro. Vote passed 5-0.
Resolution 2019-08 To Establish Thorndale Fire Company 2019 Fire Police – Commissioner Breton entertained a motion to adopt Resolution 2019-08 To Establish the Thorndale Fire Company 2019 Fire Police. Moved by Commissioner Young and seconded by Commissioner Chambers. Vote passed 5-0.
Motion to Approve the Bill List
General Manual Check 38 and General Checks 42842-42900 – Commissioner Breton entertained a motion to approve General Manual Check 38 and General Checks 42842 to 42900. Moved by Commissioner Chambers and seconded by Commissioner Young. Commissioner Chambers asked about a check for the purchase of golf clubs. Ms. Denne noted that it is a reimbursement for an order made by the golf course. Vote passed 5-0.
Minutes for Approval
January 31, 2019 – Commissioner Breton entertained a motion to approve the January 31, 2019 Board of Commissioners minutes. Moved by Commissioner Young and seconded by Commissioner Chambers. Vote passed 5-0.
Boards and Commissions Updates-Summary by applicable Board Liaison
Park and Recreation – Commissioner Young.
a. Consideration to Reappoint Brett Klukan to the 2019-2023 Term – Commissioner Young made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Chambers, to reappoint Brett Klukan to the Parks and Recreation Commission for a term of 2019-2023. Vote passed 5-0.
b. Consideration to Reappoint JoEllen McBride to the 2019-2023 Term – Commissioner Young made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Tindaro, to reappoint JoEllen McBride to the Parks and Recreation Commission for a term of 2019-2023. Vote passed 5-0.
c. Ms. Denne noted several volunteer positions open on the Parks and Recreation Commission.
d. Consideration to Appoint Josh Young to a term to be determined – Commissioner Young made a motion to appoint himself to the Parks and Recreation Commission, seconded by Commission Chambers, for the term to be determined by Ms. Miller. Vote passed 5-0.
e. 2019 Bus Trip to New York, Atlantic City, and New York for Christmas
f. July Summer Series will be a Concert and Fireworks, June and August will be movies
COG – Commissioner Young noted their meetings will be held in different municipalities for 2019 with the next meeting held in Honey Brook. He also noted discussion on starting a Route 322 Corridor Task Force to consist of East and West Brandywine, Caln Township, and possibly Downingtown Borough. This Task Force would work with PennDot and look at different ways to elevate traffic.
Municipal Authority – Commissioner Chambers noted discussion on the Pump Station planning.
DARA – No report given
Fire Board – Commissioner Young noted discussion was held on the budget as well as updating the equipment replacement plan.
Historical Commission – Commissioner Tindaro noted Mary Coyne has resigned and Leah Jennings was recommended for reappointment for the 2019-2023 term. She also noted the next Planning Commission meeting will be held on January 22, 2019.
Commissioner Breton entertained a motion to reappoint Leah Jennings to the Historical Commission for a 5 year term ending in 2023. Moved by Commissioner Young and seconded by Commissioner Chambers. Vote passed 5-0.
Commissioner Breton entertained a motion to accept the resignation of Mary Coyne from the Historical Commission. Moved by Commissioner Young and seconded by Commissioner Tindaro. Vote passed 5-0.
Lincoln Highway – Commissioner Young noted their meeting was cancelled.
Additional Business
Reappointment Correction of Charles Coxson to the Zoning Hearing Board 2019-2023 should be 2019-2021 – Commissioner Breton entertained a motion to correct the 2019-2023 reappointment of Charles Coxson to the Zoning Hearing Board to a 2019-2021 term. Moved by Commissioner Young and seconded by Commissioner Chambers. Vote passed 5-0.
Public Comments
Mark DeYoung of 20 Beaver Run commented on Lloyd Farm and Parkside, Stan Zoltek of 10 Beaver Run Road commented on zoning changes. Ms. Camp noted that the Applicant is not proceeding with the amendment that was proposed and scheduled for a public hearing. She also noted that until he resubmits something there is nothing pending.
Mr. Spaulding of 408 Lloyd Avenue presented a draft resolution prohibiting the Caln Township Manager, Staff, and Professionals from negotiating or discussion with any property owner or Developer, and the Board of Township Commissioners from voting to adopt any proposed amendments to the Caln Township Zoning Ordinance that are inconsistent or conflict with the Caln Township Comprehensive Plan of 2017.
Sharon Tatum of 135 Stonebridge Lane, Carolyn Brown of 5023 Deer Drive Bob and Donna Hetzel of 584 Lloyd Avenue, and Donna and Rick Urban commented on Lloyd Farm and traffic. Mark Evans of 103 Ayerwood Drive, David and Cheryl Spaulding of Lloyd Avenue, Julie Hearn-Nicely and Scott Nicely of 118 Ayerwood Drive, Mario Spoto, John Caporale of 1302 Casting Ct., Jeff Trego of 2 Beaver Run Road, Sanja Monterio of 119 Ayerwood Drive, Diana Pirie of 348 Mary, Richard Hodgkin of 4134 Lincoln Highway, Jonathan Finafrock of 102 Ayerwood Drive, Robert Luebbers of 5013 Deer Drive, Joe Ferris of 301 Washington Avenue, Fred Vietri of 52 Carlson Way, Robin Ashby, Ms. Sweltz of 104 Stonebridge Lane, Kathy Bernardi of 134 Stonebridge Lane, Mike Wen of 115 Ayerwood Drive, Eric Schunk of 111 Stonebridge Lane, Pat Wakefield had questions and concerns regarding Lloyd Farm. Other concerns/discussion regarding Lloyd Farm were traffic, density, personal safety, barn demolition, zoning, visitor parking, comprehensive plan, and the traffic light at Royal Farms.
Adjournment – Commissioner Breton entertained a motion to adjourn the February 14, 2019 meeting, at 10:35 PM. Moved by Commissioner Young and seconded by Commissioner Chambers, Vote passed 5-0.
Respectfully Submitted,
Denise Miller
Assistant Township Secretary
253 Municipal Drive
Thorndale, PA 19372
February 14, 2019 Minutes
7:35 PM
Commissioner Breton called the February 14, 2019 meeting to order, and Salute to the Flag.
Attendance – Jennifer Breton-President, George Chambers-Vice President, Joshua Young-Commissioner, John Contento-Commissioner, Lorraine Tindaro-Commissioner, Kristin Camp-Solicitor, Kristen Denne-Township Manager/Secretary, and Denise Miller Assistant Township Secretary.
Commissioner Breton noted that the Board conducts their meeting according to Roberts Rules of Order which means that you need to be recognized in order to speak, giving your name and address for the record. Under “Citizens to be Heard” you may acknowledge yourself on items referring to the agenda. items. Items not on the agenda are reserved for “Public Comment”. She requested cell phones be silenced and citizens speak one at a time.
Citizens to be Heard
Mark DeYoung of 20 Beaver Run Road commented on the Planning Commission recommendation for 150 Parkside’s curbing or sidewalk waiver.
Tony DiSario of 251 Loomis Avenue commented on pages missing from the financial report.
Township Solicitor – Ms. Camp
Discuss Ordinance Amending the Caln Township Zoning Ordinance Relating to Sign Regulations – Ms. Camp noted that she would like to review Montgomery County’s sign ordinance with Ms. Denne and Mr. Stackhouse and make some edits, and then present a new draft to the Board for further discussion.
150 Parkside for Board Discussion/Action – Ms. Camp noted a proposed motion to grant Preliminary/Final Approval for 150 Parkside Drive which consists of two parcels, 39-2-50.1 and 39-2-2, approximately 18 acres located in the Industrial Zoning District, Wetland Overlay, and Hydric Soil Overlay District. The Applicant proposed to develop the property with forty seven mobile homes in accordance with the Preliminary Land Development Plans titled 150 Parkside, prepared by D.L. Howell and Associates. The Applicant appeared before the Zoning Hearing Board and received Variances and a Special Exception, which have been extended and are currently valid. On January 22, 2019 the Township Planning Commission recommended that the Board grant Preliminary/Final Approval subject to various waivers. Review letters were received from the Township Sewer Consultant Gilmore and Associates, Township Traffic Consultant Al Frederico, and Brian Kulakowsky from ARRO Engineering.
Jeff Trego commented on the Planning Commission’s recommendation regarding the curbing and sidewalk waivers.
After review of the proposed waivers and Board revisions, Board consensus was for Ms. Camp to make the discussed revisions and forward the final proposed motion to the Board, for review.
Township Manager – Ms. Denne
Ms. Denne noted that she met with the Brandywine Conservancy and the Chester County Planning Commission regarding the Chester Valley Trail West. The Brandywine Conservancy has received a William Penn Grant to conduct a feasibility study that would cover the cost of the Caln portion of the study, in its entirety. She also noted that in order to meet the requirements of the grant they have to complete the feasibility study within the next year. She noted that they need a member of the Planning Commission, Parks and Recreation, and an Elected Official to sit on the Planning Committee which will hold four meetings with the first meeting in March. Abbey Swan will act as the in-house liaison. The Board noted that they will get back to Ms. Denne on a Board Member for the Committee.
Ms. Denne requested Board approval to proceed with a proposed Eagle Scout project for an ADA accessible Gaga Pit, to be located by the basketball court. She also noted that the Scouts will be responsible for the maintenance of the Gaga Pit. Commissioner Chambers asked Ms. Denne if she mentioned the medallions for the stormwater drains project. Ms. Denne noted that she did and the Scouts Leader said that they have another Scout who would need a project to do.
Engineer – Mr. Kulakowsky
Planning Commission Update – Mr. Kulakowsky noted gave a brief presentation.
1) ARRO is currently working on the 2019 road program
Ordinances and Resolutions for Consideration
Resolution 2019-07 Disposal of Township Property – Commissioner Breton entertained a motion to adopt Resolution 2019-07 for the Disposal of Township Property. Moved by Commissioner Young and seconded by Commissioner Tindaro. Vote passed 5-0.
Resolution 2019-08 To Establish Thorndale Fire Company 2019 Fire Police – Commissioner Breton entertained a motion to adopt Resolution 2019-08 To Establish the Thorndale Fire Company 2019 Fire Police. Moved by Commissioner Young and seconded by Commissioner Chambers. Vote passed 5-0.
Motion to Approve the Bill List
General Manual Check 38 and General Checks 42842-42900 – Commissioner Breton entertained a motion to approve General Manual Check 38 and General Checks 42842 to 42900. Moved by Commissioner Chambers and seconded by Commissioner Young. Commissioner Chambers asked about a check for the purchase of golf clubs. Ms. Denne noted that it is a reimbursement for an order made by the golf course. Vote passed 5-0.
Minutes for Approval
January 31, 2019 – Commissioner Breton entertained a motion to approve the January 31, 2019 Board of Commissioners minutes. Moved by Commissioner Young and seconded by Commissioner Chambers. Vote passed 5-0.
Boards and Commissions Updates-Summary by applicable Board Liaison
Park and Recreation – Commissioner Young.
a. Consideration to Reappoint Brett Klukan to the 2019-2023 Term – Commissioner Young made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Chambers, to reappoint Brett Klukan to the Parks and Recreation Commission for a term of 2019-2023. Vote passed 5-0.
b. Consideration to Reappoint JoEllen McBride to the 2019-2023 Term – Commissioner Young made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Tindaro, to reappoint JoEllen McBride to the Parks and Recreation Commission for a term of 2019-2023. Vote passed 5-0.
c. Ms. Denne noted several volunteer positions open on the Parks and Recreation Commission.
d. Consideration to Appoint Josh Young to a term to be determined – Commissioner Young made a motion to appoint himself to the Parks and Recreation Commission, seconded by Commission Chambers, for the term to be determined by Ms. Miller. Vote passed 5-0.
e. 2019 Bus Trip to New York, Atlantic City, and New York for Christmas
f. July Summer Series will be a Concert and Fireworks, June and August will be movies
COG – Commissioner Young noted their meetings will be held in different municipalities for 2019 with the next meeting held in Honey Brook. He also noted discussion on starting a Route 322 Corridor Task Force to consist of East and West Brandywine, Caln Township, and possibly Downingtown Borough. This Task Force would work with PennDot and look at different ways to elevate traffic.
Municipal Authority – Commissioner Chambers noted discussion on the Pump Station planning.
DARA – No report given
Fire Board – Commissioner Young noted discussion was held on the budget as well as updating the equipment replacement plan.
Historical Commission – Commissioner Tindaro noted Mary Coyne has resigned and Leah Jennings was recommended for reappointment for the 2019-2023 term. She also noted the next Planning Commission meeting will be held on January 22, 2019.
Commissioner Breton entertained a motion to reappoint Leah Jennings to the Historical Commission for a 5 year term ending in 2023. Moved by Commissioner Young and seconded by Commissioner Chambers. Vote passed 5-0.
Commissioner Breton entertained a motion to accept the resignation of Mary Coyne from the Historical Commission. Moved by Commissioner Young and seconded by Commissioner Tindaro. Vote passed 5-0.
Lincoln Highway – Commissioner Young noted their meeting was cancelled.
Additional Business
Reappointment Correction of Charles Coxson to the Zoning Hearing Board 2019-2023 should be 2019-2021 – Commissioner Breton entertained a motion to correct the 2019-2023 reappointment of Charles Coxson to the Zoning Hearing Board to a 2019-2021 term. Moved by Commissioner Young and seconded by Commissioner Chambers. Vote passed 5-0.
Public Comments
Mark DeYoung of 20 Beaver Run commented on Lloyd Farm and Parkside, Stan Zoltek of 10 Beaver Run Road commented on zoning changes. Ms. Camp noted that the Applicant is not proceeding with the amendment that was proposed and scheduled for a public hearing. She also noted that until he resubmits something there is nothing pending.
Mr. Spaulding of 408 Lloyd Avenue presented a draft resolution prohibiting the Caln Township Manager, Staff, and Professionals from negotiating or discussion with any property owner or Developer, and the Board of Township Commissioners from voting to adopt any proposed amendments to the Caln Township Zoning Ordinance that are inconsistent or conflict with the Caln Township Comprehensive Plan of 2017.
Sharon Tatum of 135 Stonebridge Lane, Carolyn Brown of 5023 Deer Drive Bob and Donna Hetzel of 584 Lloyd Avenue, and Donna and Rick Urban commented on Lloyd Farm and traffic. Mark Evans of 103 Ayerwood Drive, David and Cheryl Spaulding of Lloyd Avenue, Julie Hearn-Nicely and Scott Nicely of 118 Ayerwood Drive, Mario Spoto, John Caporale of 1302 Casting Ct., Jeff Trego of 2 Beaver Run Road, Sanja Monterio of 119 Ayerwood Drive, Diana Pirie of 348 Mary, Richard Hodgkin of 4134 Lincoln Highway, Jonathan Finafrock of 102 Ayerwood Drive, Robert Luebbers of 5013 Deer Drive, Joe Ferris of 301 Washington Avenue, Fred Vietri of 52 Carlson Way, Robin Ashby, Ms. Sweltz of 104 Stonebridge Lane, Kathy Bernardi of 134 Stonebridge Lane, Mike Wen of 115 Ayerwood Drive, Eric Schunk of 111 Stonebridge Lane, Pat Wakefield had questions and concerns regarding Lloyd Farm. Other concerns/discussion regarding Lloyd Farm were traffic, density, personal safety, barn demolition, zoning, visitor parking, comprehensive plan, and the traffic light at Royal Farms.
Adjournment – Commissioner Breton entertained a motion to adjourn the February 14, 2019 meeting, at 10:35 PM. Moved by Commissioner Young and seconded by Commissioner Chambers, Vote passed 5-0.
Respectfully Submitted,
Denise Miller
Assistant Township Secretary
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